xdaemon ([info]xdaemon) wrote,
@ 2006-12-29 22:53:00
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Current mood: pissed off

ISP Change... unexpectedly
So I posted a bit back about how my company was changing ISPs for stupid reasons. Well, I got pulled from the project because my manager is more of an idiot than I'd thought. Then, we fell *WAY* behind the schedule... which was to turn the old circuit off on 12/31/2006. He pushed that back to 1/15/2007. The ISP didn't bother to tell their provider (our ISP doesn't own the line into our building, Verizon does.) Verizon turned the circuit off today around noon.

I've now spent 8 hours doing an emergency ISP change... now starts the really bad part. Waiting for DNS changes to propagate. Much of what I touch will be down for days waiting for that.


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[info]zaydia
2006-12-30 03:57 am UTC (link)
That sucks. I'm sorry! If you want to go out for a drink when things chill out, let me know!

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[info]tomatoe333
2006-12-30 04:55 am UTC (link)
Hey you!

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[info]zaydia
2006-12-30 06:27 pm UTC (link)
hi! :) I added you.

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[info]actionjbone
2006-12-30 04:29 am UTC (link)
I make my usual offer of an inconspicuous back yard in which to bury the bodies.

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[info]actionjbone
2006-12-30 04:30 am UTC (link)
Weird. My first comment never appeared, even after refreshes. Then my website came back up. Then I posted something different, and both comments appeared.

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[info]tomatoe333
2006-12-30 04:50 am UTC (link)
I was wondering what happened today at noon or so...

Shoot me an email at (lj username at gmail dot com) if you need a hand.
And if nothing else, let me know the new IP for squash, and I'll get it set up.

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[info]xdaemon
2006-12-30 04:57 am UTC (link)
I left the IP info stuck on squash. It's 72.0.136.252/26, .254 is the way IN, .193 is the way OUT.

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[info]tomatoe333
2006-12-30 05:04 am UTC (link)
Thanks, I'll get it set up tomorrow.

BTW, looks like DNS has propagated enough that I can get to webmail at the office.

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ouch
[info]n2mlq
2006-12-30 05:21 am UTC (link)
at least when I had to move netbusters last, i had over a week to do it. need backup dns or mx?

alex

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Re: ouch
[info]xdaemon
2006-12-30 05:33 am UTC (link)
All set on the secondaries, the problem was even they were out in the weeds until I broke in to them and fixed IP ranges that were permitted. Thanks, though.

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[info]sfrose
2006-12-30 05:28 am UTC (link)
So it seems that having the MX record pointing to iago.ilk.org is what is keeping the mail flowing. Just need to get the A records fixed for the web interface.

Seth suggested just asking the CNAME for the subdomains to point ti iago.ilk.org and not mention the IP at all. Would that work?

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[info]xdaemon
2006-12-30 05:35 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure how that's working, then. If you have a CNAME in an MX (not supposed to be allowed at all, actually) the mail transfer agent generally canonicalizes the address being sent to... which is totally wrong. Thus, foo@lists.foo.com suddenly is foo@iago.ilk.org and goes to the wrong place. This was a bunch of PITA factor when we were setting up the N4 lists.

The A records could certainly become CNAMES and it's all good.

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[info]sfrose
2006-12-30 05:48 am UTC (link)
I didn't want to bother you with another phone call when you were still trying to get everything working, so I asked OLM to point the A records to the new IP. But I can try asking them to be CNAMES. I just worry about the level of clueness from those that I'll have to deal with on the holiday weekend.

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[info]dda
2006-12-30 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Yikes! I'm really sorry you had to put up with this crap and it probably explains why Comcast's SMTP server didn't want to send my email to you for a while; it kept claiming something about "Destination not in DNS"

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[info]xdaemon
2006-12-30 06:52 pm UTC (link)
Yep, that would be why. I still can't check my email via any real method, I'm reading it raw through an ssh connection. Until one more change propagates a bit further I don't get to use a real mail client. (I don't consider pine real, but it's getting the job done).

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[info]cyberjunkie
2006-12-30 09:55 pm UTC (link)
i got the message from [info]merina888 and i will gladly tell mims and spreee and fuzzy.... and let me know (either here or email) what the ramifications might be apo-wise, please.

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[info]xdaemon
2006-12-30 11:05 pm UTC (link)
Argh... typo.

We need to change the IP address associated with the machine to 72.0.136.253 everywhere it appears. www.apo89.org, lists.apo89.org, possibly more.

Talk to Andy Braverman. He's got more details and really knows what to do.

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[info]mbarr
2006-12-31 06:39 am UTC (link)
Youch. That's right up there with emergency server rebuilds, etc.

I feel for you..

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